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Sakratic Method
Sakrities does have this kind of udaimania claim that basically this is gonna that philosophy has something to do with the good life but the sakratic method is actually almost precisely the opposite of the Buddhist one. He's constantly asking you know tsd like what is it like about a conceptual thing and he's not interested in your individual experience i'm only interested in the abstract concept of it. And so what i'm kind of trying to say in in my own dichotomy is that on on the one hand you've got this tendency to abstract away from experience and and to kind of into this land of sort of concepts, while also letting go of some of those