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144: We Lie To Ourselves. An Interview with Col. David Hackworth.

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The Truth About Myself

"I'm going to go ahead and assume that I am lying to myself," he says. "This is like a whole conspiracy you've run against yourself." He admits: "It's not ridiculous because I do have other things to do with any bravo" The interview airs Sunday at 10 p.m. ET on CNN.

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