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Spring Retreat Talk 2, The Stone Bridge: Crossing Over with Valerie Forstman

Mountain Cloud Zen Podcasts

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How to Measure a Shoe-Joe

Mon has a verse about a shoe-joe, the long staff that Zen masters used to carry. Here's how Joshu wields it in a couple of recorded exchanges. If I suddenly could really see how my masters would... You know, can't you get it? Can't you see? This... Ouch! It's just Sam. Joshu didn't use his stick that way. Just quiet. Just here. Now how does this stick, whether shouting or whispering, how does it measure?

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