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Leading Change: Deirdre Cerminaro and Bryan Walker

Creative Confidence Podcast

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How to Navigate and Lead Change

Brian and Deirdre, what are some of the themes you're hearing from folks today when it comes to leading change? Brian: "I see some arrogance here. I see one that is actually popping up more and more" Deirdre: "People like not understanding or not open or not having a change mindset" The two core tenets of an approach called human centered systems thinking.

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