Do You Want the Pain in the Short Term or the Long Term?

"It takes a little bit of, you know, fits and starts and experience in your career to get to the point where you can show up like that," he says. "The most frustrating experiences that I've had in hiring are when someone is like, 'I can do all of these' And then it's like actually I play the triangle." He adds: "If you had told me you were a triangle player, I would have hired other musicians"

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