287: Chuck Klausmeyer—Sooner or Later, You've Gotta Squeeze the Beaver
The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
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Is Ice Fitting All?
"We acted like everyone was identically vulnerable. And we did it in a well intended way," he says. "My 84 year old mother would be subjected more or less to the same level of scrutiny as Abdul Fattah coming over from Syria for the very first time" He adds: "I just remember thinking sorry to free associate."
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