The gold miners are notorious for whacking people and throwing them in a pile of you know gold mining leftovers. The work we've done with gold miners converting them into conservationists has all been like I mean the Peruvian Navy come down and literally blow up gold mining barges. It's possible to convert them into conservationist what's that process like? We went up river up the Malinowski River several years ago and everyone was like you are going to die like you will be shot and killed, he says. "I watched the guy smoking a cigarette burning the mercury off of his gold"