Quakers were like Puritans stormtroopers and we sort of quite like Quakers. I have a little bit grudging kind of respect though for this anti-decadent movement that we've got. The other thing to say about Christmas is that, you know, the modern Christmas was more or less recreated by Dickens. There is a kind of moral center that all of this carnivalesque pleasure seeking doesn't have that same moral center unless that center is pleasure.