Psychdalic experiences don't necessarily have to be driven by ingesting substances. You can also do it through sleep deprivation, drumming. Allat shamans do all kinds of things that induce this. We know that pythagoras literally went into a cave for some extended period doing something called the thunderstone ceremony. If you spend extended time in a cave, it's a way of inducing an altered state of consciousness,. blurring the distinction between being awake and being ansleep.

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