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The Conflict Between Liberal and Local Candidates
There is an expectation from some that I'm going to be agreeable because they, you know, especially in that first election. But there's a huge opportunity for disagreement otherwise. And so definitely between 2015, 2019, where I was carving out that space and spending more time on the whip's couch than probably I cared for. "You've got to act in keeping with that idea as opposed to just do what the party wants you to do"