When you talk in the book about good writing for immersive experience, it does feel that one of the lessons is to be able to pull details from the real world. Does it ever feel to you sort of ironic that we're creating fake worlds for people to have real experiences in based on real world learnings as opposed to just sending people out into the real world? I had that flash reading the book, like maybe we should just not be doing this and sending people on hiking trips in the forest or the mountain climbing or river rafting.

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