I Love Talking About Failure

"i love talking about failure. It's been very hard for me to get to that point, but now that i've done it a couple of times," she says. "I encourage people listening to this to do that themselves in whatever small way you can", he adds. 'There's something positive about talking about no when you feel like this,' the animator-turned-designer tells her students. "'We're all kind of making this up as we go, aren't we? Well, that's just another reason why we're here for you with the school podcast."