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#405: Penn Jillette on Magic, Losing 100+ Pounds, and Weaponizing Kindness

The Tim Ferriss Show

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You're Going to Be Really Hard, You Know?

"I realized in that instant that nobody brags about walking up a grassy slope. They brag about climbing everest, you know? A, i have never, ever wanted to do anything easy in my life," he says. "i want the people, the madmen who wo burst into flames, that's what i want."

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