I think that we've come so far with design that businesses now are realizing the value of design and it's thankfully a lot. I'm really excited to see where things go in the future like what you know if I stay being a user experience designer for the next 20 yearswhat will my day to day be like right? It's also really exciting because I will never be bored yeah okay but there'll be a lot more that I have to learn or both of us has to learn all of us have to learn kind of throw which is a little scaryYeah at some point I'm like oh I just want to like take a break come on yourself learning constantly for a little bit, he says