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381: Fighting The Odds and Trauma, With Kelsi Sheren.
Jocko Podcast
The Importance of Control
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"I would like to see you try it because I know how much you would fight it tooth and nail but that's the thing you can't fight it. Like it doesn't, you'll go." "If we were forced to take sides, I'm gonna be leaning a little bit towards [the] new perspective," he says. 'It offered this perspective that was very like eye opening, you know, and it improved their perspective'
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