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Out of Creative Control: Bret Speaks with Matt Orfalea on the DarkHorse Podcast

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The Room Is Not the Room

"The room is not the room. Do not mistake the room that you are in for the important context of what's happening to you," he says. "I don't think it is because, you know, a majority of us are either not voting because we're pissed off or voting reluctantly and very eager to have something better to vote for." 'That is a political revolution if anybody can figure out how to deliver something,' writes CNN White House correspondent John Sutter.

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