Is There a Difference Between Existential Value and a Normative Value?

I want to dive into these these concepts a little bit further and let's start with ameliorative versus existential activities. I'm curious how you think about when the rubber meets the road taking something that if it wasn't tied to any sort of external validation or compensation or promotion but now is because you're so fortunate to do what you love it feels a little bit harder to make that clean split. There are often cases where something ends up having value of both kinds, he says. "There's no incompatibility things can have both"