How Did You Achieve All That Knowledge?

In 2014 was, I mean there were a couple of podcasts out there but there weren't as many as there are today so your options were probably a bit more limited. Did you join any like professional association or peer networking groups or anything like that? Yes, I was very active at that point with AFC in both the DC chapter and especially the Atlanta chapter. At that point used to meet at the Air Force Base, the domains. So that was a place for me to connect with other people, IT people in other organizations, both security contractors and other types of organizations.