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Catherine Opie

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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Is That Your First Crush?

i didn't come out till much, much later in life. The lack of rural models around you made coming out a difficult process. Being homosexual scared me. i thought that i wouldn't be accepted in society. I carried that, you know, fear, an internal homophobia within me. And it didn't happen legitimately until i moved to san francisco and was sitting on a curb with my best friend, a dean, at that moment antime. He said, kathy, there's something i have to tell you im. I'm gay. And i was like, oh, well, i am too, you know. Then there was no hesitation after speaking it.

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