I feel that black people are underestimated with, and I'm not saying that this is your claim. If we say that we want to get rid of the racism, it seems that we don't know how to do that. And so that would mean that nothing can happen at all. Putting race aside, if you just had to say, in which year were economic opportunities for lower-income Americans best, is your answer 2020 or is it some other year? It's more complicated.

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