I think that at least for a large segment of the population, how they try to go about doing persuasion is not through manipulation. It's by setting out reasonable arguments that are supported by facts and that are intended to get people to understand what is actually in their self-interest. I was thinking about it more in the like, Twitter meme space where a lot of the persuasion that happens is peer-to-peer rather than institution to citizen. So I don't feel like I'm too subtle on them.

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