What Happens to Ukraine's Military After the War?

Ukranians have indicated to both of them that they, they basiclly want the uk. In the room. The big question is this idea of what happens to ukrane's military after the war. Owen writes about erdan's apparent opposition to sweden and finland joining nato. Is he serious about this, or is he bluffing? And when joined by spectator's russia correspondent, o matthews, to talk about nato expansion.