Why Disarming Hamas Is Unclear

In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Haviv Rettig Gur, one of Israel’s leading political analysts, for an in-depth breakdown of the Trump peace plan, the end of the Gaza war, and the chaotic aftermath now unfolding inside Gaza.

With the hostages returned and the ceasefire in place, Haviv explains how Hamas has re-emerged from the tunnels, executing its rivals and reasserting control — while Israel withdraws under intense global scrutiny. He reveals why the Trump administration’s 20-point plan to rebuild Gaza faces collapse, how Qatar and Turkey’s support for Hamas is undermining regional stability, and why the international “stabilisation force” may become a new UNIFIL — protecting terrorists rather than disarming them.

We discuss Trump’s strategic play — leveraging Qatari fear, Turkish ambition, and American power to end the war — and whether this marks a genuine peace or simply the start of another chapter in a long regional conflict.

All this — the Trump deal, Hamas’s resurgence, Qatar’s influence, American troops in Gaza, and the uncertain new world order emerging in the Middle East.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:45 The End of the Gaza War: What's Next?

05:22 The Trump Peace Deal Explained

09:30 What Happens to Gaza Now?

14:10 Why Israel Withdrew — and What It Means

18:55 The Return of Hamas: Tunnel Resurgence & Executions

24:40 Qatar, Turkey & Hamas’s Continued Influence

30:20 The Role of the U.S. in Gaza’s Future

34:55 Can Gaza Be Rebuilt Without Hamas?

40:40 What the Trump Administration Got Right and Wrong

46:10 Will an International Force Stabilise Gaza or Fail Like UNIFIL?

51:05 Media Narratives, Lawfare & Global Pressure on Israel

58:30 Haviv’s Warning on Iran and the Next War

1:04:50 The Psychological Aftermath of October 7th

1:10:35 Israel’s Strategic Dilemma: Peace or Perpetual Conflict?

1:16:40 Final Thoughts & The Path Forward

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