When Was the Moment You Were Most Afraid?

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Sally Kohn: I hiked a mountain called my Mount Baker. She says she didn't know what she was getting into, but it wasn't the cold or heights that were so scary. "I just realized up here that most of my life, I've been trying to achieve things I don't really want in order to achieve some ridiculous thing," said Kohn.

In this new episode Steven sits down with founder, CEO and self-titled "Boring Biz" lady, Codie Sanchez

Codie starter her career as a JFK award winning journalist covering human trafficking. In a career change, Codie entered the world of finance, and is a former partner at private equity firm EEC, and built First Trust’s $1 billion+ AUM Latin America business. She is the Founder of ‘Contrarian Thinking’ and the Cofounder of ‘Unconventional Acquisitions’, which focuses on purchasing small or what Codie calls ‘boring’ businesses as a way to achieve financial freedom. Codie has appeared on CNBC, Fox, Forbes, Fast Company, Entrepreneur, People en Español, Business Wire.

In this conversation Codie and Steven discuss topics, such as: