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Is It Enough to Get Rid of the Bureaucracy?
I don't think Robert Moses with all of his talents and personality, I don't think he could do in the 21st century, what he did in the middle of the 20th century. He would have done a lot, maybe more than anybody else. But also, I think his methods and his really bullying messages really, really, he bullied people, including powerful people. So we have to allow people, we have to overrun the, overturn the nimbyism to say, well, for all of our concern about environmental change, we must work together. And it won't work if we put more people in the boat, but don't make the boat any bigger.