Is There a Caesaro Papist Model?

Some catholic scholars have said virgilius was under duress. I don't buy that personally, he was there for long enough. He was given quarter, he was given a nice place to be. It wasn't like he was hooked up to chains. So this is one of the reasons why some people look at this and, you know, they, some people go protestant because of this. They realized that historical narratives, ah, it's a broken compass. It doesn't have a navigational clarity. You've got one claim here, another claim here, two people going out here. It's like different maps. Everybody's goingin different directions. If you want