The Future of Fully Autonomous Vehicles

Chris Ermson, who's one of the more well known players in the space, he's the CEO of Aurora. He was involved with the DARPA self driving challenge years ago,. I believe he was at Waymo for a number of years. And that's what he's saying is their path towards level four, level five autonomy going forward. Jim Farley: We're optimistic about a future for level four eight ass, but profitable fully autonomous vehicles at scale are a long way off.