A very phrasal verby chat with Rob from English with Rob. We talk about: - the best way to learn phrasal verbs; - our favourite bands and whether auto-tune is evil or a really good idea; - the dreaded pandemic and how we adapted to it (and how we're still adapting to it); - reality TV (and why we don't get it); - how "get" and "be" are cousins; - what stability and certainty in 2022; - capitalism and global warming. (Yep! We went there!)