Jeff Biden's Science Ends Up Helping Biden Make Sense

I don't know that there's been a more influential successful beloved Chief of Staff than Ron Clay and as long as I can remember combining all those things. And listen, that's not to say I didn't like love and really like working for all the people we worked for. Jeff comes in with a different role shaped both by who he is and by circumstances. So I think your focus is make sure you're one effectively managing oversight requests from Congress which then frees him up to just kind of run the government.