When you say that, the going and coming of the giva man, the birth and death and transmigration of the gwatman, it is the mind more technically, more precisely, the sukma sharira. Subtle body, carnese sharera causal body. Causal body is ignorance itself. That's what we call, colloquially, the ghost. So that the subtle body, that's what goes and comes and has many experiences. Now you can answer your question, does the reflected consciousness travel? Yes. Does pure consciousness travel? Reflected consciousness travels along with the mind. There's a lot of travelling going on on the movie. If the screen also decides