The Meaning of the Cross with Brad Jersak
The Zeitcast with Jonathan Martin
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Theology of the Cross
"This is real, understand the cross in a way that it took me 50 years to relearn. And I'm just so happy, because this is a very good news," he says. "I see the definitive revelation of Christ's love... But it's hard for me to make these jokes and just like something ... So, if there were people in peace, how do they get there? They died."
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