You Want to Be More Depressed?

"How is she holding court during a pandemic? They're having these meetings in the ouse, and there's no pushback," he says. "They just nod, pat each other on the back." 'I was very hesitant, because i was still kind of sensitive,' writes Ewan MacKinnon. "'Several people within the trump white house told me all this time that this was going on in real time' He adds: 'You want to be more depressed? Sure. Let's pore it all out.'

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