How to Sustain a Business Model in Which Users Don't Pay for Your Service

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CNN's John Sutter looks back at some of the most memorable tech hearings in recent years. Zuckerberg, Pichai and Shochu were among those who appeared before Congress this week. The hearing focused on TikTok, a social media app that allows users to pay for an ad-free experience by tapping into their home Wi-Fi network.

In a congressional hearing this week, OpenAI’s chief executive, Sam Altman, appeared to be on the same page as lawmakers: It’s time to regulate A.I. But like so many other proposals to regulate tech, will it actually happen? The Times’s technology reporter Cecilia Kang helps us understand whether Congress will actually act, and what that could look like.

Then, Casey talks with Twitter’s former head of trust and safety, Yoel Roth, before and after Elon Musk took over the company.

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Cecilia Kang is a reporter at The New York Times covering technology and regulation.
Yoel Roth is the former head of trust and safety at Twitter.

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Sam Altman urged Congress to pass legislation to regulate A.I., including the proposal that A.I. developers should be required to get licenses from the U.S. government to release their models.
Casey Newton reported for This American Life on Roth’s time at Twitter, before and after Musk took over.