There is a way to be intimate with the world. When I zero into the personal, just Eric, or just the one person in Ukraine, there's nothing to trust. It makes me think a little bit about like, I don't trust that we humans are going to solve climate change in time to save ourselves. But I don't have any doubt that the world, the planet is going to be fine. Right? Life is going to do what life is going to doing there.

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