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Kelley Bronner: Black Girl Burnout, The True Meaning of Work, and Why EVERYONE Should Center Joy

FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

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The Joy of Work

"I don't look for validation from people who aren't worthy of validating me in the first place," she says. "That has rewritten and work is now in its proper place, which is it's just work." She adds that having a joyful life is also doing social justice work withoutdoing social justice work. "[It] facilitates me living the life, part of me living the lives I want to live," Williams says.

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