I love you are constantly proactively asking for feedback, not just assuming that people are going to come to you and tell you. So those are all amazing. At one of the e questions i was going to ask you is, as a design leader doing very creative work, creative folks often don't like interruptions in their work days. I'm curious how do you approach various ceremonies or meetings? What proportion of them would you say are sinchronus versu synchronus? And how do you decide? It's the easiest thing to do, and it becomes the default. But we've been pushing more and more having workshops and and kind of pre called work,. Like pre discussion work,

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