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Some people are pointing to these two trials as indication that police officers are now being held accountable. Do you see this as some kind of sea change, or just the results of the specific facts in these two trials? I don't think that's how our criminal justice system was constructed. We are supposed to look at individual facts and each case being tried for what it is. And i think there was a very strong momentum here to look at kim potter's case in the same way we looked at der shovens. But i think now there's a wider lens that more police officers are going to get charged,. More are going to getting tried, and i think, frankly, more