The Texasperiment: Why Diverse Democracies Fall Apart and How They Can Survive

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Yasha: A lot of the influential people in this country, a lot of t people of a platform in this country live. And often we'vestarted to look down on ordinary people. Yasha: If this kind of national service actually makes people spend another year after college in a community that is unlike their own, ah, that would be a very good thing. Well, yasha, we're running at a time. Tell us how we could find this book and where we could find you and your work.

Yascha Mounk is a professor at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, a contributing writer at The Atlantic, and the founder of Persuasion. His new book, The Great Experiment: Why Diverse Democracies Fall Apart and How They Can Endure, was published this week.

In this week’s conversation, Ravi Gupta and Yascha Mounk discuss why it is so hard to build diverse democracies, how we can overcome the deeply human instinct to discriminate against those unlike ourselves, and why he remains optimistic about the prospects of the “great experiment.”

This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity.

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