There's no consensus around what anything is going to be worth, because the public markets has been turned upside down so much. It's interesting, i'm seeing more and more a there's wider spreads in terms of what people are willing to pay. And that creates attractive opportunities for investors with high con on when no one else is willing to write a check. But it's temporarily really bad for founders, because when you have widespreads people all look at each other and go, then no one knows what it's worth.

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