Marty sits down with Joe Bryan to discuss his presentation of the problem of fiat currency.

Joe on Twitter: https://x.com/satmojoe

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What's The Problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtFOxNbmD38&t

0:00 - Intro

0:36 - Joe’s background

9:53 - Borrowing on bitcoin stabilizes the market

13:02 - Unchained

14:49 - Educating on the problem with money

18:57 - The origin of Joe’s story

24:00 - Zaprite & SOTE

25:33 -The power of storytelling

32:34 - Outlining the Fiatello story

51:45 - Response to the presentation

58:39 - Preparing for 2025

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