i mhenk: What's really fastinated me about this account is that we've been talking about religion for 20 minutes, and ye i asked you, what is it and where does it come from. And not once have you said the traditional explanation, which is, well, humans were trying to explain why such and such happened. The story that i have heard my whole life always posits religion as being an alternative, or an early form of science,. Almost, that it's a way of humans understanding the world. But in your account that you've been giving for a bit now, you haven't mentioned that piece of religion at all. Do those sorts of questions have any efficacy

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