Garrett: A lot of the times when we're learning stuff, we don't often think about when we're choosing things. We don't think about the human aspect that's attached to it, which as technologists, it's just not a thing that we do. So again, like the bus factor, right, like something bad happens to the person and now what do we do now, right? Yeah, that's a really good, really important factor. It sounds like Garrett's projects of this hackathon or these group experimental projects might help give a little exposure to some of the new tech.