I'm saying consumption of energy by humans because we optimize growth as our cultural goal and growth requires energy at a 99% tether. And most of our energy is fossil. We're now adding more things into that. Where you live in Vermont, 150 years ago, look out your door, everything was clear cut there. And then we found coal, so we didn't need wood. But now we're actually using more wood as a global culture than we did 150 years ago on top of all the fossil fuels and renewables. So we're just getting back to your metaphor earlier. We are shoveling fuel into a runaway train ... It's going to keep chugging on until it runs out

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