Tony Ennis joins me to talk about how websites can be built with simplicity and power using new html and browser standards.
================== EPISODE LINKS
Tony on X: https://x.com/tonyennis
Html First: https://html-first.com
Mini JS: https://mini-js.com
Base Styles: https://base-styles.com
Tony's talk at big Sky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aknX6xq8Vfg
Una at Google IO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTCIStB6y8s
================== CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro to Tony
00:34 Tony's work at Really Good Software
02:17 "My whole thing though is ..."
05:03 The Platform and a Stylesheet talk
07:18 Html tag list
07:26 Una and the Chrome dev team making progress
09:10 Popovers
11:56 New UI Elements in Html 2023 vs 2025
12:34 Modal
15:48 select with selectedcontent tag
16:27 Multi-selects (they are still bad, but working on it)
16:50 datalist (autocomplete)
20:22 Async in HTML (replacing htmx?)
28:57 Where React is preferred
34:40 The Front-end spectrum -- Mini JS
45:52 Mini-js code example
50:43 Laz on why html is great at UI
52:30 Why a five-year-old can learn html
55:21 Building mobile apps with React Native and webviews
59:50 Server-driven web apps
1:05:45 Base styles (unreleased minimal CSS framework)
1:10:25 CSS Layers for siloing your libraries
