When Russia first invaded Ukraine last year, everyone predicted massive cyber war. And I'm on the regular saying, no we're not going to see amassive cyber war. What do you need cyber when you have bombs? I think that cyber weapons are weapons of the weak. It's very, very hard to take down a country just with cyber. There's just too many systems, too many operating systems and configurations. That's saying it's impossible, but unbelievably difficult.

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