Sally Kohn: How do you think about what people expect of notion versus what you want to build in notion? Kohn: It's a classic innovator dilemma kind of thing. There are so many people using notion in so many different ways, we understand all of the things that people want to use notion for very well. So watching what people have been using the ocean for and what they want to use the ocean for, I think helps us constrain that space a little bit.

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