"Some of the most sociopathic people that just don't care are some of the best salesman, because they can just shut down," he says. "It's not like, you know, I don't think they're one and the same, but that's the thing that sucks." 'You meet somebody, they talk a big game and they're great, they shake your hand, they look you in the eye, we're going to get you over there'

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