Michael sonad in ceo of gray scale, joining us once again on the phone from los angeles. Michael: D central land is one of these de centralized metavers projects where users can interact one another and participate in the economy there by building businesses,. There's actually a native token associated withk calld mana we don't have at time. And michaell, talk about the link between crypto currencies and the metavers because it seems like there is a lot of spiritual similarities there.