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394: Lessons from the Stoics. Discipline, Leadership, Life. With Ryan Holiday.
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How to Write a Book That Lasts
"I'd sold well into the millions of copies before I hit the New York Times list for the first time, which was a very surreal, strange experience," he says. "So many people write things and they think it's going to last ... And then it's just like, what are you talking about? This has never had a shot."
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