Passion vs. Interest: Scratch Many Itches

When it comes to making a real difference, being remarkable isn’t about fame or titles—it’s about how you show up for others and yourself. Kim and Amy are joined by Guy Kawasaki—chief evangelist at Canva, bestselling author, and host of the Remarkable People podcast—to talk about what it really means to be remarkable. Guy shares stories from his book Think Remarkable and reflects on how growth, grit, and grace can help us create meaningful work and stronger relationships. From learning to embrace imposter syndrome, to saying “yes” when opportunity knocks, to finding joy in unexpected places (like surfing and parenting), Guy offers practical guidance for anyone who wants to make a difference. Tune in and discover how to bring more meaning—and more remarkable moments—into your life.

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• Guy Kawasaki

• Books | Guy Kawasaki 

• Guy Kawasaki's Remarkable People Podcast 

• Think Remarkable | Guy Kawasaki

• Guy Kawasaki | Substack

• Is There Better Than Better | Ellen Langer 

• Developing a Growth Mindset with Carol Dweck

• Mindset | Carol Dweck

• Kim Scott: The Power of Radical Respect and Candor | YouTube

• The Problem With Passion 3 | 9 | Radical Candor

• Beyond 'Sorry': How to Apologize and Mean It 6 | 22 | Radical Candor

• Remarkably Candid: Insights from Guy Kawasaki 6 | 31

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Chapters:

(00:00:00) Introduction

Amy and Kim introduce Guy Kawasaki, chief evangelist, author and host of the Remarkable People podcast.

(00:03:02) Power of Saying Yes

Guy discusses his “say yes" philosophy and its impact on his career.

(00:06:54) What It Means to Be Remarkable

What it means to be remarkable and how everyone can make a difference.

(00:09:26) Being Remarkable with Jane Goodall

The story of Jane Goodall writing his foreword and being on the podcast.

(00:16:04) Growth Mindset & The Right Environment

How the right environment is crucial for fostering a growth mindset.

(00:20:59) Passion, Interests & Ikigai

The value of exploration and interests over forced passion.

(00:24:05) Get Interested in Your People

Lessons from taking up kids’ interests and parallels to leadership.

(00:29:43) Dealing with Stereotypes

Personal experiences and learning to respond with humor or candor.

(00:37:40) Bridging Viewpoints

Understanding opposing perspectives by asking how instead of why.

(00:42:02) Grace, Grit, & Growth

Connecting with Stacey Abrams and her alignment with Guy’s book.

(00:47:07) Overcoming Imposter Syndrome

Advice on recognizing and overcoming imposter syndrome.

(00:53:45) Making Decisions Right

Focus on making decisions right, not making the right decisions.

(00:55:52) Lessons in Motivation

A story about mistaken identity and unexpected sources of motivation.

(01:00:40) Conclusion

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